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BEAST MACHINES RUMO(U)R MILL
RUMORS - 2
RUMORS BUSTED - 22
RUMOUS CONFIRMED - 4

Busted Rumo(u)rs!

2. G1 Scourge is going to show up in a Predacon body and explain the the Maximals everything that has happened since they returned to Cybertron.
Look, it just ain't gonna happen.  With almost half of the first season done, and a lot of what happened already explained, plus the amount of time it takes to create a character just to kill him off in five minutes, PLUS the BS&P rules about character death... I think not.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Anyone who actually watches the show knows that this is bunk.  Completely bunk.
NOTE: This rumor, and the two that follow it, are from a time back before the show had even aired, and Bob Skir was actively answering questions on his website.  Basically, someone who was really bored decided to make these up, and pass them off as inside information.  Since no one knew what to expect, they were fun thoughts to entertain.  Of course, by the time the first episode was screened at BotCon '99 (to tremendous audience approval that warrated an encore showing, I should point out), it was obvious that it was all lies.  These very "rumors" led to the creation of this often humerus rumor page.  The fact that the very first rumors, about the identities of Generals, were speculated (and later proved true) even BEFORE the show aired probably doesn't say much for the shock value of the show.

3. Optimus Prime will make an appearance as LioConvoy (in physical form, at least), and quickly be killed off.  Primal will get all upset and shout "Megatron.!" like he did before the transwarp cell explosion.
EXTREMELY unlikely.  I think Hasbro has learned its lesson: killing Prime off is NEVER a good idea.  Which reminds me.  They killed off Prime in the Transformers movie, they killed off Duke in the G.I. Joe movie, but why didn't they kill off anyone in My Little Pony?  What about the ratings, man?
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Again, anyone who actually watches the show knows that this is bunk.  Completely bunk.

4. Mangaboss is Supreme Commander and bearer of the Matrix.
There is absolutely no evidence for this whatsoever, and is in complete contradiction with rumor #3.  Bob Skir has alluded to the possibility of huge robots (possibly bases and combiners, but who's to say?), and that G1 characters haven't factored into their stories *so far.*  I expect the first season to be somewhat tame, after which all hell breaks loose in the second season.  This IS a novel for television, after all.  I think this was just the pipe dream of some people trying to justify their purchase of the toy...
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Someone was pulling our collective leg.  Get over it.

5. Rattrap was given wheels to appeal to the "handicapped demographic."
This one is rather asinine, and many people have expressed extreme displeasure at the idea.  The truth is that we don't really know why Rattrap has wheels.  The only 'bot we've seen in action in robot mode so far is Optimus, and he is pretty damn cool.   I don't think Rattrap's wheels really make him handicapped, though I sort of imagine him zipping about like Hack and Slash from ReBoot.  Scott McNeil will feel right at home.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Rattrap was, in fact, given wheels to piss us off and to give us fodder for the Lost Episodes.  So there.

6. Bob Skir is a complete moron who will drive the whole Transformers franchise into the ground, just like he did Godzilla and X-Men.
Where do you people come up with this stuff?  I loved X-Men all the way throughout, but I've never seen an episode of Godzilla out of sheer principle.  The people who say this sort of thing are usually the ones who think they (or their dog or dead great-grandmother) could do a better job than Skir.  The truth is that practically NONE of them would be able to pull it off.  They'd ignore story and structure and all common sense by loading it down with a bunch of G1 characters who the younger viewers don't even know, kill off all the Maximals they don't like, and throw in a bunch of wrenches that would just make the show suck in general.  Leave this one to the professionals kids.  With half the first season complete, I think this show will make an indelible impression on all who watch it.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: I was wrong.  An individual named Skywarp has been perfectly capable of "pulling it off," and is still doing so at the Bottalk Official Beast Machines Message Board.  Oh, and a lot of people hate Skir, and some with good reason, but the show is still marvelous... at times.

7. Jim Byrnes is out of work and lonely.
Untrue.  As he informed us at Botcon (July 15-18, 1999 for all of you who missed it) he DOES offer his voice talents in Beast Machines.  Not only that, he is also working on the new series Highlander: The Raven, where I *assume* he is reprising his role as Joe Dawson.  As for Highlander 4... don't hold your breath, kids.  They keep pushing back the filming date, and, according to Jim, "Christopher Lambert isn't getting any younger."  He went on to state that neither was HE, for that matter.

As for being lonely... there's no way to know.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Not only is Jim playing Thrust in Beast Machines, but he's also working closely with Elizabeth Gracen.  You never know... ;).

8. Beast Machines is sucks.
Quiet, you.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: After careful consideration, I have decided that you do indeed need to be quiet.

9. They turned Megatron into an ugly soda machine.   He's uglier than Blackarachnia's forehead.  He's probably the original Megatron anyway.
What what WHAT?!?  What's wrong with BA's forehead?  She's got the Klingon-warrior look going for her, man!  How can anyone have problems with Blacksexarachfemmehotnia?  As for the rest, this is most definitely our "beloved" BW Megatron.  Again, on bobskir.com, they clearly state that the G1 spark issue is dead and will not be addressed in Beast Machines.  And he's NOT a soda machine, he's just wearing a robe while his beast form (the awesome Red Dragon) is being slowly disassembled.   It's all part of his vision to make Cybertron "pure," by eliminating anything that remotely had to do with animals.  See, it's not just the die-hard G1 transfanatics who think that a bunch of terrestrial fauna overrunning a machine-themed planet is a bad idea.  Also, our buddy "Tankorr" seems to share those ideals.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Megatron isn't a soda machine!  He's a giant floating head!  And something else, it would seem... mwahahahaha!

11.  Rodimus Prime and Galvatron show up in Episode 10.  Galvy kills Rodimus and takes the Matrix of Leadership.  Megatron takes on a new form as a jet, which is going to be and Ultra-sized toy.
Patently false, except for the part about the Ultra-sized jet... it just probably isn't Megatron.  This rumor was started by a wry little poster on Benson Yee's Beast Machines board as part of a school assignment.  Shame on you, whoever you are.   And I would be able to completely confirm this for you all, but Fox had to show some stupid two or three hour animated Nascar piece of crap last weekend.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: See?  Episode 10 has come an gone.  Not a single G1 reference in sight.
NOTE: It's obvious now that the ultra jet toy was Jetstorm.  At the time this rumor (which was really just another idiot who decided to be funny) was seen, we knew about the toy, but not it's identity.  Anyone and shaved Chihuahua could figure out that it was supposed to be Jetstorm.  Sometimes the obvious answers really are the hardest to see...

12. Phil Bond and I (TheOrange) have left the Beast Machines board for good.
Not true, at least I am still about, posting here and there.  As a matter of fact, I'll post there eventually so people will be encouraged to go here and read about this!   Phil?  I haven't talked to him yet (though I hope he will help me out with this site, if I ask nicely), but I believe he'll come back after the newbies improve, and his ego is sufficiently coaxed.  I know it worked on me (thanks FireBlade)!
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Yeah, we're still around.

14. The Oracle is an extension of, or merely related to Vector Sigma.
Entirely possible.  Perhaps it is powered by a key similar to Vector Sigma's.   Perhaps it produced one for Tankorr at his whim, or just told him where to find it.   What's even more interesting is that The Oracle and Vector Sigma might be at odds. How interesting would it be if we were to discover that during Megatron's time making the virus (or before it, more likely) that he encountered Vector Sigma.  But oh, wait...
RUMOUR BUSTER!: It would seem that the Oracle *surrounds* Vector Sigma.  When it was created is as of yet unknown.

15. Optimus Primal will die in the season finale.
I doubt it.  This "rumor" is based off of the preview, which shows Optimus Primal's hand disintigrate.  So what?  It could be a dream or vision, it could be cute animation, or it could be factual... who knows.  If Primal *were* to die, then that would leave Cheetor in charge... and... oh my god...
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Well, Primal does die, after a fashion, but he comes back to lead the Maximals once more.   Still, this was sort of true.  Although it IS a shame who DID die and stayed dead...
NOTE: This rumor is about the first season, and does not refer to Primal's fate at the end of season 2.  Besides, he didn't disintegrate in episode 13, he completely decorporealized in episode 14.  Therefore, this rumor is false.  He DID die in the following episode, but since that's at the beginning of a new season, that still makes this rumor false.

17. Jetstorm will be reformatted into a Condor and become Silverbolt again.
This one started because the name "Silverbolt" appeared in an early toy list as a Basic-sized Condor.  This doesn't necessarily mean that Silverbolt will be recovered from Jetstorm any more than Optimus Primal's hand disappearing means he'll die.  For all we know, this Condor could merely have the same name as the astrally misplaced Fuzor.  Remember how BM Scavenger used to be called Destructicon, and how Buzzsaw used to be Muddobber?  No?  Why weren't you visiting this site back then, you putz!
NOTE: It appears this is true, according to some screen shots in the publicity stills section at bobskir.com, however this may not be the Silverbolt we all know and love!  We'll just have to wait until Episode 17.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Well, he wasn't reformatted per se.  He was given a technorganic body through interesting means, so technically, this rumor was untrue.  Don't you love technicalities?

18. Vector Sigma is the impetus for Megatron's "No-Organics" campaign.
Hmmm, like I said, that would be interesting.  In fact, that idea was used in an entirely bogus review of episode 10 (this was MONTHS ago), wherein the Maximals fall into the center of Cybertron where they find Galvatron and Rodimus frozen in ice.  They are awoken, fight, and Galvatron kills Rodimus and takes the Matrix.  Galvatron and Megatron (the BW/BM version) do some little action-type stuff, and Megatron gets turned into a jet and tells the Maximals that it was Vector Sigma who commanded him to purge the planet of everything organic.

The only "hole" in this idea is the Rebirth (other than the review being entirely bogus, but these are mere details).  The three-parter was ignored in the Japanese continuity, and apparently in Beast Wars as well, since it ended in a second golden age for Cybertron.  Who brought all this about?  Vector Sigma.   Vector Sigma, however, far from being anti-organic, proclaimed that the future of the transformer race would depend upon the fusion of Cybertronian and Human.  Thus, the Headmasters and Targetmasters were born.  Had the American series been allowed to continue (The Rebirth could easily be considered the first episodes of a fourth season), we probably would have seen the Powermasters as well.  Maybe even, >GASP<, the Action Masters.  But, again, it was cancelled.  Blessing in disguise, that.
NOTE: Just to reiterate the above paragraph, this idea seems pretty impossible, but as we are supposed to remain objective (despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary), this rumo(u)r will stay un-BUSTED! for the time being.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Vector Sigma IS the Oracle, which is very much for Cybertron being a balance of the technological and the organic.   Sorry, kids.

19. Nightscream is Rumble/Frenzy/Ratbat/A Predacon.
The only "evidence" to support this is that during the flashback sequence in Episode 5: Forbidden Fruit, we see a Transformer who very closely resembles Soundwave (details, face, colors, and everything) protecting a smaller Transformer (who we later find out was Nightscream), and taking a direct hit from a tank drone.  Now, Nightscream's original form appeared very much like Rumble's (or Frenzy's if you like the comics better).  Because he inexplicably turned into a bat after going offline, others have speculated that he may be Ratbat (also "evidenced" by Rattrap calling him a rodent with wings.  Of course, he called the aerodrones "flying attack dogs," which one could interpret as meaning that Silverbolt is their general, which we find out may not be true.  Oh well).  Perhaps the animators were just being cute, like with the Optimus Prime statue.  At the very least, because Soundwave was guarding him, he might be a Predacon and not a Maximal as he had claimed.  We will see... NOTE:  Skir swears up and down that this is merely a coincidence, and that all those Soundwaves we saw were really just clever CG recycling tricks.  Of course, he also said that the episode guide was "a complete fraud, and nothing about it is correct."
NOTE: It's looking less and less likely that Nightscream is going to stab the Maximals in the back.  His new "friend," however, is a completely different story altogether...
RUMOUR BUSTER!: This rumor developed because many anticipated that some big plot point would be made out of it.  Not so.  Sorry.  Still, there's always hope for the true cynic.

20. Unicron will make some sort of appearance in episode 26, the series finale.
Here's hoping. :)

"A giant head floating over Cybertron.... what a wonderfully creepy image! (Please note that I'm deep-into writing #26 as I make this observation!)" - Bob Skir.
NOTE: This giant, floating head is probably just the Megatron-thingy that made an appearance in Episode 14.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: In fact, that really IS all it was.  Sorry, kids, no Unicron.  Skir be damned.  But, to his credit, he never actually *said* we would see Unicron.  Of course, I have other information saying that Unicron's head HAS been seen, we just never knew it?  You remember that moon with the three giant claw marks on it?  Apparently that's how the "Unicron's Head" suggestion made itself manifest.  Interesting, that.

21. Season 2 will see the rise of "Catimus Prime."
Ha!  That'll be the day!  I mean... really!  So, Skir has "big plans" for Cheetor.  So, he *might* be left in charge after Primal "dies."  And so we are definitely going to feel Optimus Prime's presence... but we would need somthing like the Matrix of Leadership for that, right?  Hah.   Cheetor with the Matrix... funny stuff.  At least they aren't saying that Prime merged with Vector Sigma.  Now THAT would be stretching it (note the sarcastic tone of the whole "rumour."  In other words, I don't put such things past the Beast Machines writing team... so if these come to pass, I shall not be surprised).
NOTE: So then what's up with Primal Prime?   Hmmm?
RUMOUR BUSTER!: NO NO NO NO NO!  Perish the thought!  Cheetor will NOT become the next Hot Rod, though the end of Episode 26 might suggest *something.*   Then again, all these rumors make one look too deeply at insignificant things.

22. Spark War will see the return of hardcore transforming.
Not entirely certain what this means.  Maybe we've seen it already in Home Soil.  Perhaps this means what I think it does... mmm... I'll say that later.  From what I understand, they couldn't get or simply didn't use the old-school sound effect (would have made Skir happy).   Heck, they used it on Ravage in Beast Wars!  Oh well.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Well, that was disappointing.   By "hardcore transforming," Skir only meant that Obsidian and Strika were oldskoolers.  Terribly dissapointing.  Did hardcore transforming return?   No.  I guess they tried to get the rights to the sounds from the original Transformers series, but couldn't (strange, considering its use in The Agenda, Part Three with Ravage).  So, in the sense that their transformations sounded and looked more Beast Wars-like, did hardcore transforming return?  Hell fart damn, no.

23. Spark War will see the Return of Optimus Prime
Reasoning?  The toy, Primal Prime, for one.   Wonder where he comes from?  I hope it isn't just an overpriced repaint.   No toy above the Mega price-point (except Magnaboss) has not been on the show in at least one episode.  This guy is an OpOp repaint.  Also, the title of one of the episodes, "When Legends Fall" makes the mind boggle.  And what was that about hardcore transforming?  Hmmm... wonder what the future will bring.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: He's an overpriced repaint.   He's not even *that* overpriced.  He's supposed to retail for $25, $5 less than Optimal Optimus did.  Primal Prime never once appears in the show.  Those who point to Megatron in the last episode can stuff it.  Did you see Optimus Prime-like colors?  No.  And why would he call himself Primal Prime anyway?  He's *MEGATRON.*

24. Obsidian and Stryka are really Springer and Arcee.
I would love for that to be true, but here's why I think it isn't.  Obsidian identified himself as Obsidian, and said that's who he had always been.  It was a name that Optimus clearly recognized.  They also knew the name of Stryka.  So, they were a general duo who had worked together before countless times.  But reasoning FOR the argument: Springer was a green helicoptor, Obsidian is a green-ish helicoptor.  Arcee was a futuristic pink car, Stryka is a futuristic armored pink car/tank thingy.  Not the strongest argument, but neither was the Silverbot-is-Jetsorm / Rhinox-is-Tankor(r) bit.  We'll see what happens.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Completely untrue.  Obsidian has been and always was named Obsidian.  Strika has been and was always named Strika.  Apparently they are the two greatest generals known to Transformer kind (of course, this ignores 'bots like Optimus Prime and Megatron, but let's stop picking nits).  Interesting note, though: Obsidian was originally called Blitzwing, who one might argue as being a great General.  Strika similarily was called Blastrax, the leader of the Combaticons.  Just be glad that Skir didn't get his way and get her named Tananka.

25. Obsidian and Stryka are really Star Sabre and Aleeta-1.
A more obscure reference than the first.  Both were guardians of Cybertron in some fashion, and both have appeared in some form of Transformers, whether it be the Japanese flavor or the UK comics.  Either way, if they are involved, then that means that Skir is more well-versed that most TransFans (including myself).  Is this more likely than the first theory?  Probably not.  As Skywarp, TransFan extraordinaire, said himself, "there is a 99% chance I'm wrong."  Just for clarification, Aleeta-1 is a UK creation and is not the same 'bot as Elita-1, Optimus Prime's old flame.   Of course, there's always the problem that Star Saber was destroyed...
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Obsidian has been and always was named Obsidian.  Strika has been and was always named Strika.

26. Obsidian and Stryka are really Cy-Kill and Crasha.
*THWACK!*  I don't care how many similarities there are between Bob Skir's version of Transformers history and the GoBots; I don't care how much Strika reminds you of Crasha; it just ain't true!
NOTE: I distinctly recall this rumor as existing before.  I don't know what happened to it, so I added it again after the fact.
RUMOUR BUSTER!: Does it even need to be said?  In case the simple-minded don't get it: Obsidian has been and always was named Obsidian.  Strika has been and was always named Strika.

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